They attended Crossroads Church in Indiana with us. I was on the praise team with both of them (Rob plays guitar & bass, and Kirstin sings), and Steve & I have worked with them on Bible League projects — they're freelance and work from home, too. Rob does graphic design, and Kirstin is an artist. As mentioned, they've started *culture is not optional, which they're now devoting most of their time to, securing backing, developing curricula and programs, and soliciting material for the website.